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	<title>Comments on: Renewed</title>
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	<description>Dr. Roger D. Butner - Counseling You and Your Family Through the Storms of Life</description>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://hopeforyourfamily.com/2008/07/18/renewed/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori,

I am so glad my blogging is making a difference for you guys!  It&#039;s a good encouragement/reminder for me to keep active and current with it by making it a priority.  And I can so relate to your response to Sacred Marriage and your comments about intellectualizing-legalizing.  Sometimes I can really get upset at the mirrors God offers me, because I don&#039;t like the pictures I see of my self.  I just have to keep remembering two important things:

1. God really loves the screw-up I see in the mirror.  (For a great song, check out &quot;Refrigerator Art&quot; on Allen Levi&#039;s album, Talking with Tyler.)

2. Looking in a mirror may not be pleasant, but at least it gives me a chance to see what&#039;s messy and do something about it.  And, if I&#039;m willing, I can even see and enjoy the improvements in the looking glass along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori,</p>
<p>I am so glad my blogging is making a difference for you guys!  It&#8217;s a good encouragement/reminder for me to keep active and current with it by making it a priority.  And I can so relate to your response to Sacred Marriage and your comments about intellectualizing-legalizing.  Sometimes I can really get upset at the mirrors God offers me, because I don&#8217;t like the pictures I see of my self.  I just have to keep remembering two important things:</p>
<p>1. God really loves the screw-up I see in the mirror.  (For a great song, check out &#8220;Refrigerator Art&#8221; on Allen Levi&#8217;s album, Talking with Tyler.)</p>
<p>2. Looking in a mirror may not be pleasant, but at least it gives me a chance to see what&#8217;s messy and do something about it.  And, if I&#8217;m willing, I can even see and enjoy the improvements in the looking glass along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Thacker</title>
		<link>http://hopeforyourfamily.com/2008/07/18/renewed/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you&#039;re human, Doc.  I think it&#039;s the life experience that gives you guys the edge over those with only the training - I&#039;ll take a battle scarred soldier over a pink faced officer any day.  And I have to say that Sacred Marriage really burnt my flesh.  As iron sharpens iron indeed.  Grace is the part I need to really keep in the forefront.  I tend to intellectualize, which really translates into &#039;legalize&#039; things too much.  The jots and tittles will get us into a world of hurt.  Looking forward to a retreat at the Hermitage with my husband one of these days.  Your blog really helps us.  So thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re human, Doc.  I think it&#8217;s the life experience that gives you guys the edge over those with only the training &#8211; I&#8217;ll take a battle scarred soldier over a pink faced officer any day.  And I have to say that Sacred Marriage really burnt my flesh.  As iron sharpens iron indeed.  Grace is the part I need to really keep in the forefront.  I tend to intellectualize, which really translates into &#8216;legalize&#8217; things too much.  The jots and tittles will get us into a world of hurt.  Looking forward to a retreat at the Hermitage with my husband one of these days.  Your blog really helps us.  So thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://hopeforyourfamily.com/2008/07/18/renewed/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I totally agree with your perspective that others and our selves can have such high and unrealistic expectations of MFTs, especially Christian MFTs.  I&#039;m glad your wife has found my blog encouraging, and I&#039;m with her on boycotting new usernames and passwords.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I totally agree with your perspective that others and our selves can have such high and unrealistic expectations of MFTs, especially Christian MFTs.  I&#8217;m glad your wife has found my blog encouraging, and I&#8217;m with her on boycotting new usernames and passwords.  <img src='http://hopeforyourfamily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://hopeforyourfamily.com/2008/07/18/renewed/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way was I leading this one!  Actually, my wife and I try to get out to this place twice a year, if at all possible.  It&#039;s called The Parish Hermitage (http:www.parishhermitage.org) in St. Amant, located between Baton Rouge and New Orleans.  Eddie Parish is a LMFT, as well as a gifted spiritual director.  His wife, Judy, has such a gift for hospitality and really being present with people.  Together, as they follow the Spirit&#039;s leading, they are an amazing team, and they personally tailor each visit to meet the needs of the guest(s).  Check out their website.  I&#039;m sure you and your wife would be so blessed, if you are ever able to make the trek down here to South Louisiana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way was I leading this one!  Actually, my wife and I try to get out to this place twice a year, if at all possible.  It&#8217;s called The Parish Hermitage (http:www.parishhermitage.org) in St. Amant, located between Baton Rouge and New Orleans.  Eddie Parish is a LMFT, as well as a gifted spiritual director.  His wife, Judy, has such a gift for hospitality and really being present with people.  Together, as they follow the Spirit&#8217;s leading, they are an amazing team, and they personally tailor each visit to meet the needs of the guest(s).  Check out their website.  I&#8217;m sure you and your wife would be so blessed, if you are ever able to make the trek down here to South Louisiana.</p>
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		<title>By: BigJosh80</title>
		<link>http://hopeforyourfamily.com/2008/07/18/renewed/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>BigJosh80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, who led the retreat?  Wasn&#039;t you was it :)?  You know, I&#039;ve come to find out that one of the big misconceptions people have of mft&#039;s is the they have it all figured out when it comes to their own marriages and families.  We struggle too.  In fact, we might be a lot more stubborn to ask for help when needed because sometimes I think we buy into that misconception as well.  I have a saying (I try not to live by it though) - &quot;I became a therapist to help others change so I don&#039;t have to.&quot;

Hey, way to set the example for the rest of us.  I&#039;m encouraged.

Oh, and just so you know, my wife now reads your blog.  She really liked your facebook one.  She wanted to comment but wouldn&#039;t even entertain the thought of trying to remember a new username and password.  Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, who led the retreat?  Wasn&#8217;t you was it <img src='http://hopeforyourfamily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ?  You know, I&#8217;ve come to find out that one of the big misconceptions people have of mft&#8217;s is the they have it all figured out when it comes to their own marriages and families.  We struggle too.  In fact, we might be a lot more stubborn to ask for help when needed because sometimes I think we buy into that misconception as well.  I have a saying (I try not to live by it though) &#8211; &#8220;I became a therapist to help others change so I don&#8217;t have to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, way to set the example for the rest of us.  I&#8217;m encouraged.</p>
<p>Oh, and just so you know, my wife now reads your blog.  She really liked your facebook one.  She wanted to comment but wouldn&#8217;t even entertain the thought of trying to remember a new username and password.  Take care.</p>
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